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4.5. Conclusiones
I am going to the clubs to get laid tonite, and/or KC at least one woman. I WILL at a minimum feel up the ass of at least one attractive woman. I am a MAN and I make no apologies for my sexual desires. I will fulfill some of these desires tonite. I WILL at a minimum get at least one or two telephone
#`s for follow-on work. I will make mistakes, but these will be learning
opportunites. I will not despise PUAs better than myself, but instead befriend them and learn from them. I will RELAX and ENJOY myself no matter
what.
3. PREPARATION:
Dress--> slightly aggressive, with whatever happens to be in fashion (you may need to ask women friends, go to department stores & ask cute clerks, watch MTV, and importantly make a test run or two to some of the clubs in your area to determine fashions). Choose colors that women say look good on
you. Black rarely fails. Baggy or loose clothes --> depends on the fashion. If you want to go to a black/hip-hop venue, loose is HIGHLY recommended.
Otherwise whatever YOU FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE in and what you
have gotten positive FEMALE FEEDBACK on should do the trick. Some
clubs do not allow sneakers, so be advised. Avoid hum-drum clothing like Dockers or Dexters, unless you are going to a white frat-boy type
club....Leather jackets are HIGHLY recommended--> women like leather, generally.
Accessorize--> choose an interesting ring, necklace, arm band, tattoo, or what have you. Or shoes/belt if jewelry is not your style. Cologne is
recommended. Again, ask female store clerks/friends or internet chat mates.
Generally, Polo/RL & CK are good standbyes. I`ve found Bvglari Pour
Homme to work for me, as well as Fahrenheit. Women love smells --> I often get complemented on this. Cologne also defuses some of the alcohol/smoke stench....Make sure you have some breathmints/mouthwash as well as you
don`t want to smell like an alkie or coffin-puffer even if you are ;-). Hair gel can be a PLUS.
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ADVANCED TOPICS (AT): I do not recommend going for the Jude Law AI
pimp look (wide collars, massive jewelry, leather)for beginners. Advanced players can pull of an aggressive, pimp look. Unless you have major attitude to go with this, I don`t advise it. I will also sometimes wear no underwear or a leather brief if I want to make myself more conscious of my male power
(this is a bit OT, but it works for me and can make me more sexually charged than I otherwise would be).
I will try to lay down a bit before going out in order to rest, and maybe have one drink to relax. Listen to some power tunes to pump yourself up. Think about your successes! Induce a POSITIVE frame of mind. You ARE the
MASTER of your destiny. You WILL get laid tonite --> no you will Lay the Bitch tonite, not `get laid`. Getting laid is for passive wimps.
Other preps/things to bring with. Cell phone is a must for # closing (more on method later). I try to bring interesting props, such as a disposable camera, travel pics I`ve taken, origami paper, and the like. Sometimes I will use these in the `Attract` stage of FMAC process that works for clubs as well. Don`t
forget the breathmints.
Oh yeah, one last point. Your goal will likely be to FUCK a CHICK THAT
NITE. Make sure your place is respectable. Spray an air freshener. Don`t leave condoms (particularly used one) or pornos lying around (a mistake I made 2 weeks ago). Have the fridge stocked with water & basic food. You may need breakfast! If you want to get rid of the chick early (shouldn`t be a problem w/ a club pick-up), perhaps set the alarm & tell the chick you have a plan --> she has to go (soon after the fuck, early in the morning). Espeically helpful for married men.
4. STRATEGY:
Minimize risks, maximize opportunites. Your enemies will be excess
variables (friends, groups, time gaps, to a lesser extent other men); your allies will be opportunities in numbers & mobility, as well as your preparedness &
PU skills.
5. TACTICS
5a. Where to go, & when? Choose an area of high club density --> you will likely find yourself wanting to club hop. Choose a club that has some side area where you can break away with a chick and talk. Loud music is OK, if
there is some side area/table area or fast-food restaurants nearby outside. Try to find a club where they don`t hustle you to buy a drink every 15 minutes...
When to go? I recommend going near closing time, minus one hour. Take the
close time and subtract 1 hour. You want to be IN the club for the prior 1.5-2 hours. This is when the women will be horniest, many men will have left, and the hot chicks will be on the rebound from getting dumped by the hot guys who have chosen a different chick & therefore desperate to re-affirm their sexiness (which you will be more than happy to do). It is the time when decisions are made on whom to leave with and spend the nite. Much before this time window, and there is too much `playing` (6 times out of 10 the guy the chick is flirting with at 12:30 will NOT be the one she walks into a cab with at 4 AM -- trust me, many men make this mistake of assuming too early that she is `spoken for`). Much later than the 1 hour before close time
window, and you will feel too rushed and risk that the best ones WILL in fact likely have been scooped up.
Examples--> Boston club closes at 2AM, be there between 11:30 and 1,1:30.
Tokyo club closes at 5AM, be there between 1:30 and 3;30-4.
As for days of the week, Saturdays are best in terms of volume & people being relaxed, unburdened by work. Followed next in attractiveness by a
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theme nite where there will be fewer men, and which ladies drinks are usually discounted. Fridays are average. Sundays-Tuesdays are tough...depending on theme nites.
Should you drive or taxi or train? Up to you. I prefer to taxi, but it could be easier to get a chick into a car provided you are sober enough to drive (e.g., wanna lift home or wanna see my place - but be careful that she is not using
you for a ride, and in fact will fuck you: if you think she wants just a ride, test her shit by trying to take a taxi to your place). Generally, if you`ve laid the
groundwork to the point where she is leaving with you --> shouldn`t matter how you get there. Car is preferable to train, because it minimizes the distance between you & distractions from other people.
5b. FIND
Walk into a club. Always smile & be positive. Stand tall, don`t slouch.
Make sure your hair is combed (or fashionably tousled, if that be the case).
Go up to the bar & get a drink.
TIP: Don`t obsess about the `To Drink or Not to Drink` issue, that is a
distraction. Choose alcoholic or non -- YOUR preference, not one dictated by social pressure. If you are concern ed about feeling wimpy about not
drinking, then order a Coke or OJ and pretend it is a mixed drink, although that is quite lame. Better to drink non-alcoholic proudly if that`s your preference. If a chick wants to give you shit about it, then you make a joke out of it and tell her you are a world-class trained Olympian speed
skater/assassin or what have you and work a gig out of it to get her laughing &
realize the error of her ways -- she will remember your witty response FAR more than the fact that you aren`t drinking Corona, and will likely be
impressed ;-) If you choose to drink alcoholic, fine. I suggest in moderation, as being drunk can hinder the closing process (more later...)
Whom do I approach? Do NOT approach the first cute chick you see,
although as you get more skilled & if you have time constraints then using a strict 3-second rule is not necessarily a `bad thing. However, for newbies I advise taking time (about 5-15 minutes) to survey the atmosphere of the club, who is with whom, wehre the dance floor is, where would be good
places to feel up a chick etc. Look like James Dean -- sexy, disinterested, mysterious while sipping on your drink or a cigarette. Perhaps chat up the bartender --> these people can give you social proof & be your allies....the more friends you make, the better (although never forget your MISSION to get laid with an HB, not chat up every friendly guy or girl in the joint...) Scan the room & then walk the joint subtly so you can get all the key vantage points all the while making EC --> make a mental note of who gave you EC
back, and save at least one of these for a later approach should your initial attempts fail. Make at least 2 targets, and think of how you will approach them...
What kind of women make good targets? Whom should I approach?
**PART2 to continue*****
Kipp's Klub Guide - Part 2. The APPROACH, the SARGE, the CLOSE
Jan, bartender at Tokyo hip-hop club Viettie: "The African guys have the most
success, because they don't care about failing and never quit hitting on the chicks".
Golden Rule: "Follow the body, not the mouth. Listen to how she touches/responds to your touching, not to her lame-ass foils such as … I have a BF….no….I can't do this here….If her body is responding, the WOMAN is responding, and your chances
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of fucking her are VERY HIGH".
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WHOM DO I SARGE?
**Usually women go to clubs with friends; the difficulty of the approach increases with the # of women; i.e., singles are easiest (but infrequent), pairs are optimal, threes are doable, more than 3 and the variables are harder to control. Sometimes guys can be in the mix; you should spend your 15 minute warm-up time getting
acclimated to the bar/club to make quick judgments about the relationship of guys to the women you've identified as potential targets.
ADVANCED TOPIC: Guys are not bad, and can often be your allies as most guys
want to see other guys succeed in a meat market arena when the target female in ? is not identical. Most newbies overestimate the likely "steady" romantic interest of guy/girl mixed groups – generally it is OK to approach, and if there is a
romantic/territorial issue then you usually find out pretty quickly in which case you play it cool, back off, and re-orient quickly toward non-harmful conversation and potentially defuse with flattering comments about what a "lucky guy" he is, or what a
"terrific looking couple" you are. You needn"t waste time here being buddy-buddy and you will want to excuse yourself (toilet, talk to other friends, dance, drink, whatever) pretty quickly if a formal leave even seems necessary.
I will usually look for an attractive girl, but not a knockout, who is standing/sitting to
the side of the dance floor (probably at a bar counter or table/peripheral area).
Assuming it is a single or pair, I will wait for a pause in the conversation before making my cut-in – nobody likes to be butted aside in a conversation, and if you approach when the 2 friends are talking in earnest you will likely be an unwelcomed interruption – fatal mistake, tough to recover from. I will further look for girls who
look either really bored or having a good time – chicks that seem to ooze attitude are
probably better saved for later, or else approached with a neg ala Mystery"s
techniques. Finally, I will typically approach women who are drinking alcohol, but not visibly drunk. I find the Evian set and the boozer sets to be difficult to deal with
– I like leverage my buddy Jack Daniels as my ally in the PU, even if this may be cheating (note—the key is to get the chick dammit; once you've fucked her so she is screaming out of her panties, then you can proceed to have all the sober non-alcohol fun you want in subsequent outings…)
ADVANCED TOPIC: WTF Kipp, you are telling me to avoid the 9s & 10?. What
kind of plan is that? I am simply saying start out on the 8s, or a mixed pair. Wait until the 9s-10s get dissed by their alpha lust targets – they will have less
attitude
later. . Sometimes all the guys avoid the 10s as "beyond my league", and you can swoop in, but that is an exception rather than the rule. As you get better, you can directly approach better looking girls as a rule. But I assume if you know what you are doing in clubs/bars, then you are likely not reading this manual.
HOW TO APPROACH?
This stage is WAAAAAAAAAYYYY overrated (even Maniac is increasingly saying
these days that J chicks have been taken by the lamest openers, such as 'what's your e-mail address' or 'you look really hot, what's your name")
The key is to be relaxed, smiling, confident, not a panting dog, and simply approach with good posture, a smile, good intonation, and strength of body manners. The girl
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is a human animal – she is processing not only WHAT you say, but at some
conscious/unconscious level your looks, manner, voice tone, scent, etc. VERBAL COMMUNICATION is one part of the equation, and overrated in my view.
Particularly in what can be a noisy bar situation…..I may even approach the friend of my primary target, just to disarm my entry into the cloister and frankly to take a bit of
the pressure off of myself (although this can backfire, if the friend takes your
approach as she is your primary target, in which case chick etiquette of not stepping on friends' toes may kick in)
General rule-of-thumb styles for different bitches:
- friendly looking, happy cheerful ? neutral to compliment, weak praise, funny off-beat
- average looking ? neutral, slightly funny/offbeat
- queen bee / high bitch shield looking ? neg, neutral, to funny/offbeat. Avoid compliments.
Generally, HUMOR is GOOD, SHORT is SWEET. Make personal (clothing
accessories, general mannerisms, drink choice), social comments rather than talk about politics, sports, & heavy stuff – you are in a music club, not a DEBATE club.
LISTEN to a CHICK – if she talks, grab onto her threads & let her TALK. Chicks
like to be listened to, and led powerfully. Nobody – especially chicks – likes to be droned to sleep by too-long monologue, even if it is slightly witty in your mind
(your
mind doesn"t count, her intellectually active mind counts 30%, her
body/subconscious mind counts 70%!!!!). You are in a bar, not a DEBATE CLUB.
**Examples of approaches:
1/ "Hi, this is a great song, don"t you think? Sounds like Janet Jackson, do you know
who it is?"
2/ "Wow, this song brings back memories/Wow, this song really makes me FEEL like getting down & dancing – brief dance demo – don't you think so?"
3/ "Hi there, how are you? I couldn't help but notice your nails. Where did you find
that unique color—looks really cool in this lighting. They aren"t radioactive, though
(laugh)…."
4/ "Hi, I thought you were a leapord or zebra (if wearing animal print clothing), so my buddy wanted me to come over & check it out to see if it was safe - big smile, playful poke, laugh…."
5/ "What"s that drink, looks tasty (assuming odd colored drink)-> do you always drink that?"
6/ "You remind me of xx (famous person) or yy (some chick you know). I bet you get that all the time…."
7/ Use a prop if you must. Have a disposable camera, either ask to take their pic or have them take you/your buddies…..whatever, anything to break the ice.
8/ Travel topics are good. Maybe break the ice by blurting out "It feels soooo good to be back in town after 2 weeks in Hawaii, wherever". Chicks like to travel, & you can immediately start talking about places you've been/want to go – create an "our world" travel state, and substantiate this w/ travel pics assuming you may have put some in your billfold….
9/Lastly, compliment on non-threatening accessory – shoes, earring, lipstick, necklace, etc. While you probably spent 5 minutes deciding what neckchain you were gonna wear, the chick probably spent 3 hours (lol!), asked 6 friends how it looked – so suave her insecurities…..
CHICK RESPONSES:
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1/ Warm Receptive (answers your ?, smiles, maybe introduces herself/friends) 2/ Neutral (smiles to neutral face, acknowledges your ? & maybe answers) 3/ Cool bitch (ignores you)
4/ Ice cold (walks away or tells you to piss off)
In my experience, you probably get a distribution of something like 10%-30%
WARM, 30%-40% NEUTRAL, and the remainder cool/ice. Unfortunately, I am not
going to give you any magic formula to win over the cool/ice crowd immediately ? I would suggest a Mystery/RJ neg theory approach which frankly I am not that skilled
in.. And yes, they are likely the ones w/ the biggest tits and shortest mini skirts.
You are best off after a cool/ice reception to simply say "see you", move on, and maybe approach later once their alpha males have gone off to fuck her friend in the toilet/car and you have likely demonstrated social proof by being w/ other chicks, on the dance floor, etc. You will likely be feeling wounded, and if you try to pursue much further immediately will risk coming off as whiny/needy/loser. Bitches smell dripping blood and are trained to go in for the kill – you don't need that now. You know that she is a bitch, and if you have the chance AND choose to approach her
again later on, you will know that you have to display ATTITUDE &
DESIREABILITY back to her. Don"t lose state here – rejection happens to all guys, even the best. Maybe she is on the rag, maybe she is pathetically in love w/ one guy or type of guy (she only rides Benz, never Beemers or Bentleys), there could be a million reasons that are not necessarily PERSONALLY directed against you. And
yes, maybe you are not "cute" or "young" or "buffed" enough. Shit happens. Forget about it. Move on.
ADVANCED TOPIC: WTF Kipp, you are telling me I am going to fail maybe 50%
of the time in an approach? That is not a PUA. Well, that's life guys. Even Mystery
in his RJ challenges posits that clubs can be the most difficult channels to work.
Besides, what are your options? Staying at home with Ed Powers Dirty Debs #178 – you meet exactly 0 women. Approach nobody but retain your precious ego? You meet exactly 0 women, or maybe 1-2 UG's who feel sorry for you & approach you.
Besides, what are your options? Staying at home with Ed Powers Dirty Debs #178 – you meet exactly 0 women. Approach nobody but retain your precious ego? You meet exactly 0 women, or maybe 1-2 UG's who feel sorry for you & approach you.