you rarely run out of things to say. With mastery you can take almost any idea that you create or she gives you and link it to a useful theme, which in turn can be linked to a more intimate (Stage 3) way of speaking.
Part 6 - Fuck Closing
The subject of here is getting the fuck close from a girl. There are, of course, many ways to lay a chick, and this is a post about what works for me. I have tried to look at common threads which have run through many of my lays and explain how they relate to PUA techniques. I hope the reader will find some useful ideas here.
I will divide it into two main parts, one dealing with going for the one night stand (ONS) where you meet and lay the girl on the same night, and the other part will look at getting the fuck from a follow-up meeting after you have number closed her or arranged to see her after the initial meeting.
This is a big area and I can’t cover all the intricacies of it, but I have been thinking over some of the techniques I use to get the lay, and why the techniques worked to help me get the lay. I have fucked girls from both ONS and from follow-up meetings.
I actually prefer meeting up with chicks and enjoying the thrill of the chase more than just a ONS, but there is something exhilarating about meeting a girl and fucking her the same night. When you can do that regularly you know your skills are honed well for sure. I can’t get ONS all the time; they tend to happen from time to time in
amongst the follow-up meeting fucks. For me though the ultimate high in life is when you know you are going home to fuck with a girl the first night you ever set eyes on her, due to your skill. I’ll give some examples of times I have fucked girls using these techniques, and things I have learned from the girl after debriefing her in bed after the lay.
Winning State Of Mind
Girls might want to fuck you for a lot of possible reasons. She might want you badly because she likes your looks, because you have turned her on with your persona, language, personality, perceived status, or perceived worth. She might want to be swept off her feet, could be highly sexual, out for a revenge fuck because her BF pissed her off, or any number of other reasons. What is important is you need to have her in a state of mind where she wants to fuck you, and for you, the PUA, to be able to create that state, notice when she is in it naturally, or hopefully, be the master of both these situations.
Perhaps one of the most important things to remember is that if you win her mind, you will win her body. You can win the mind directly using your routines, C&F techniques, SS patterns etc. Or you can win her mind using her body, by this I mean using kino to get her into an aroused state. Just as the mind can influence the body, the body can influence the mind. You can turn her on by using your language by
getting her imagining arousing situations. Likewise, you can get her so turned on through your kino and kissing that her mind will give in and go along with the fuck.
For her to want to fuck you, ideally you should have her in such a state that she is dripping wet at the thought of you banging her. This means you use your techniques on her before you go for the lay in such a way that she is doing some or all of the following - she sees your value, is in rapport, likes you, is connected with you, trusts you, is fantasising about you, is aroused is your presence, sees you as the prize. With highly sexual girls you may not have to get all the connection, trusting and liking parts. With those types of girl, having sexual arousal and the opportunity for her to act on it might be enough. You have to calibrate what kind of a girl she is by testing the waters with her and seeing how she takes your techniques. Early on I make sure to test how far she will go by gently dropping light-hearted sexual innuendo, or using sexual conversation in quotes, after I have rapport. If she enjoys that, I know she is probably a girl I can push in a sexual direction more quickly than I can with someone who doesn’t understand the innuendo or avoids continuing it. Same with kino, I make sure early on to kino and test how she reacts. I’ll start lightly touching her arm as I talk to her and if she responds in turn, it is a green light.
Follow-Up Meetings
When I first meet a girl at a follow-up meeting I make sure to show I am a sexual being right away. If she has agreed to meet you after the initial pick-up then you must have shown her something she either liked, or was curious enough to want to find out more about you from the positive impact you made in the first meeting. What better time is there to go for some strong kino then? Last time she saw you, you made an impression on her such that she wanted to spend time with you again.
Therefore she is in a pretty open mood to you as she waits to meet you on the follow-up.
I typically meet the girl in the evening for a drink. I try to make sure I arrive after her so I can walk right up to her as she is standing waiting for me. I walk towards her and smile, say “Hiiiii!!” sending out warm, confident energy toward her. I then reach out, put my arm around her, hug her, pull her in towards me a little or move my body close to hers, kiss her (sometimes on the lips, sometimes on the cheek, depending on how “into me” I judged her to be during the initial meeting we had. Or if I intuit she is submissive and likes to me led, I will kiss on the lips). I’ll say “Good to see you”.
I’ll then launch right into a theme to put her at her ease, probably a NEO which allows me to use C&F and triggers anchors I have set to remind her of the best moments of the last meeting she had with me. I’ll then take her hand and lead her to the Tonguedown Bar. That’s not the real name by the way ;-) (I will take a photo of the place and post it soon, I think)
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Characterisitics Of A Good Tonguedown Bar
The Tonguedown Bar is a place I take chicks so I can pattern the shit out of them, kino massively, and tongue them down. You should have a good place scouted out in advance so you know it is a suitable place to go to work on her and get her into an aroused state. A good tonguedown bar needs a few things. It should be quiet enough that you can take her into a quiet corner and not be surrounded by people. If there are lots of people around then she is likely to feel like a slut, or self-conscious if she kisses you passionately. It should not be totally dead inside either though or she might be self-conscious that the bar staff are aware that you and her are the only people there and so will have the attention of the staff exclusively. A bar/pub with a quiet area away from the main action is good. My Tonguedown Bar has a back room with little alcoves recessed into the walls where you can hide from the people in the rest of the pub a bit. Also it is a little dark inside in the evening, no glaring lights shining on you as you are touching her sexually and kissing her. It should not have loud music if at all possible, because if your techniques revolve around talking intimately with her, she needs to be able to hear you. I find it tiring having to shout all the time and not very relaxing. Your tonguedown bar should be a place you can both relax and feel comfortable getting to know each other intimately. Go out some time and scout out a few places in your town/city and pick out a few good places you can take girls to for a follow-up meeting. If the place is near your house, that’s even better.
Once in the Tonguedown Bar I will get us a drink each, telling her “I’ll get these in, if you get me one later.” The chick always agrees to that. I make sure to lead her to the secluded area. It’s best to get there at a time when it is quiet, in case it becomes too busy at peak time for her to feel relaxed. I generally meet girls on a follow-up on a weekday (Tuesday – Thursday) and go out to meet new chicks on Monday, Friday and Saturday, with Sunday being my day of rest. The advantage of doing things that way is I get to meet lots of chicks when lots of them are out on the town, and then when I arrange the follow-up, I meet them at a quieter time, which is more suitable for closing them in a quiet bar.
Building Intimacy
Let the chick sit down first! That is important, because if you sit down first she might sit opposite you, and that is useless of intimate kinoing. Let her sit down before you, and then you sit next to her, not opposite. Make sure you are in a position where you can easily kiss her and touch her up. As we walk to the Tonguedown Bar I make sure to re-establish rapport, getting laughing, feeling good and enjoying being with me again. I might tell her a funny story, tease her a little, and kino. By the time we are sitting down together in the Tonguedown Bar we are already enjoying each other’s company, so what needs to follow next are techniques to test how sexual she is, stories to make her respect and like you, SS patterns to build rapport and then sexual arousal and progressively intimate kino. I recommend looking at Maniac High’s
“Maniac Plan”, on www.pickupguide.com, checking out some of Ross Jeffries’
materials, and reading Tao of Stevie 1-5.
My idea is to create an increasingly intimate state where her world is just me and her.
I want her in a state where the rest of the world disappears, her problems are out of her mind, and she is just in the moment with me enjoying herself, feeling really good.
A good sign of this is when at the end of the night you look at your watch and can’t believe how much time has flown by. You start off quite gently probing with your techniques to see which she responds well to. I’ll fractionate between direct SS, to telling an interesting story, to eliciting values, to patterning and all the while
increasing kino. When I was with HB Writer on the follow-up meeting I did all this and fucked her on only the second time I met her. When the kino is increasing well, that is a sure-fire sign that you are likely to get the lay either than night or before long. With HB Writer I started holding her hand early on from doing a palm reading, and kept holding her hand as I moved the kino to thighs touching together, to hands on her shoulder, her back, putting my head on her shoulder and smelling her
perfume, to nibbling her neck, to nibbling her ear, to kissing her on the lips and tonguing her down. All the time, I was talking to her, getting her trance words,
feeding them back to her in patterns, building a connection and time distorting her so she imagined having those feeling connected to me for a long time into the future.
After I moved into the Discovery Channel and Blow Job patterns, she invited me back to her place to “see the view”. We both knew what she really meant by that, so I said sure, we jumped into a taxi, which she paid for and went back to her place where I fucked her and slept the night. This worked for me because I won her mind over. If you win the mind over, the body will follow.
The Body Will Follow
Winning her mind over is, for me, a reoccurring theme in my successful lays which I have got from follow-up meetings. While I was living with my Swedish ex-GF in Stockholm I used to chat online with an Italian HB who back at my former university in England. I chatted with her for a couple of months as a hobby and to try
techniques out on while I was a newbie at SS. By the time I had worked on her mind, built curiosity, intrigue, connection, and chatted on the phone, it was easy to get the lay once I returned to England to visit my family. The Italian HB was waiting to meet me at the airport on my arrival and I slept with her on the second meeting! Her photo is up on my site (Michela). I had won her mind using my techniques so that she wanted to give herself to me. And she did. I can still clearly remember the tone of her voice and sexy Venetian accent moaning “Oh Steve, oh Steve”, as she was
underneath me. HB Britney was won over to such an extent that I had to change my phone number after she started stalking me. She called me up while I was working near Oxford and talked dirty on the phone telling me what she wanted to do to me once I returned to her city. Look, when you win a chick over properly and get inside her head, she will want to you to fuck her brains out. I know, it has happened to me.
I get right inside some of these chick’s heads and can almost tell what they are
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thinking when I am with them. When you can do that you gain a real power to influence their thinking.
I generally see a girl three or four times before nexting her. If she is not going to give up the goods in that time frame I will move on. I won’t give up my time, energy and money on her if she is not going to give back what I want (we both want actually) If she is not playing ball I will tell her why I am not seeing her again. There are lots of girls who will fuck you either on a ONS or within three to four meetings, so I won’t continue to put effort into a chick who is not playing ball. I won’t get pissed off about it either, because I just see it as having been a great chance for me to hone my skills. But the majority of girls I can meet on a follow-up meeting with me do end up fucking inside of that time frame.
One Night Stand Fucking Preparation
If you are going for the One Night Stand fuck close you need to be prepared for it logistically speaking. This means having condoms ready in your pocket. It means not drinking alcohol, or drinking only a small amount. There have been a few times where I have tried to fuck a chick and been unable to get hard because of the alcohol I drank. This happened before I got into ASF and learned real PU techniques. Being prepared also means you have a place to take her to. I prefer laying girls on a ONS at her place because I don’t know whether she is a stalker or will cause trouble
afterwards. If you lay her in your house and find out later she is trouble, you risk having her cause all kinds of problems at your door. This has happened to me. So, if at all possible I want to do the ONS at her place. If I have got to know the chick and think I can trust her from spending time with her a few times, then I might take her back to my place. If I think I am going to lay a chick for the first time, I sometimes will masturbate beforehand in her bathroom while she is in bed waiting for me. The reason for this is so I can increase my staying power when I fuck her. A couple of times when I have laid a new chick I have come too quickly with the excitement of everything going to plan : - ) so now, if I am excited around her, I make sure to relieve myself first. That way I can fuck her for an hour or two, without stopping to keep the excitement level down. Sometimes I do mathematical tables in my head as I fuck her to increase my staying power.
The girls I have had a ONS with have a few common threads running through them.
Here are some descriptions of some ONS and the techniques that I think made them happen.
HB Countryside
This was a girl I laid in a small rural town. I was in a club with my wing and had entertained a number of girls around her. I was the guy from the big city and that
gave me social proof. I walked up to this chick and told her I wanted a place to stay for the night, that I was not from the small town and had no way of getting home late at night (it was about 1am). She said I was cute and invited me back to her place. I was kissing her all the way to her place and fucked her on the carpet of her living room. On the way to her house she told me that her brother often brought girls back to the house (she lived with her family) and if her brother could, so could she. I think this was a kind of “revenge” fuck to get back at her family. So this chick was up for some fun because I had social proof, was direct, and she was amenable to fucking due to her mental state towards her family. After I fucked her either her brother or father started walking down the stairs. I ran out the back door and never saw her again.
HB Frivolous
This was an interesting one for three reasons. This was a chick I laid on the first day I
This was an interesting one for three reasons. This was a chick I laid on the first day I