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5. MARCO METODOLÓGICO

6.2 ENTREVISTAS A PRODUCTORES DE LA VEREDA PUERTO PERU

Calvin Cantrell: No, no, no, hold on. Corey Lindsly: I’m there now.

John Bosanac: No, don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t. CC: Get out!

CL: Two more, two more, two more numbers. What are you doing? CC: I’m looking up (800) numbers.

[Unintelligible]

CL: What are you doing, pulling tones so you can trade them for Nintendo games? CC: I wouldn’t pull any of those, because I’m gonna write a program tomorrow or the next day.

CL: Man, I’m, I’m just laughing, here we go.

CC: [Unintelligible] kind of natural, like, publication. CL: No, it’s a terminal electronic.

CC: Are you off there now? CL: Okay.

CC: All right, wait, wait, termination, confirmation, I’m off. But if you’re not reg- istered like track is, is it?

CL: Not to my knowledge, but I would have to check to be certain.

CC: You know, while we’re at it, we, you, you ought, we ought to just do it for the whole fucking…

M: Hello?

CC: We ought just do every switch. [Unintelligible]

CC: Why the hell not?

CL: That is the plan, that is what we are gonna do. CC: It won’t take it, what…

CL: That’s a…

JB: I think he’s running a 7D puller and a 14D puller. CL: Oh, really?

JB: Uh-hmm.

CC: A 14D puller is gonna, is gonna [unintelligible] gonna go ahead and do it. CL: Zero, zero, zero.

JB: I told you how to do it. CL: For x = 000.

JB: Well, the problem is [unintelligible] pulled my account number. [unintelligible]

JB: The account number still occurs sequentially. I mean, there’s like big gaps. [unintelligible]

CC: Actually, account numbers do… CL: Any kind of accounting on the inquiries? JB: Right.

CC: There obviously isn’t.

CL: Yeah, at this point, I think it’s, it’s obvious that there isn’t. Because I mean, the way we, yeah, I, at this point [unintelligible] the way we’ve been pulling things [unintelligible]

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CC: Fucking butt FM (another hacker) called me tonight, and he was fucking inquiring about it, asking [unintelligible]

CL: That’s not good.

CC: Yeah, I think, I think that’s why he’s talking to Nokes (another hacker), because Nokes is very interesting.

[unintelligible] CC: Yeah, extremely.

CL: Well, let’s not give it to Nokes yet. CC: Well, we aren’t gonna give it to Nokes. JB: Oh, guess who’s been working with Nokes? [unintelligible]

JB: No, no, no, I was telling, I was telling… CC: I know. I know.

JB: I was telling Fat Boy (Cantrell). [unintelligible]

[unintelligible]

CL: Nothing’s happened yet. CC: Nothing’s happened yet.

JB: It wouldn’t be anything that I got off Nokes just patch. CL: It is.

JB: Yeah. And that’s all I have on it.

CL: I don’t know if he put the limp thing in there or not. JB: He put it somewhere big. And it’s holding water, so… CL: Well, we got to take that thing completely.

JB: Yeah.

CL: Because we got to be in there by the time they cut over secure ID. JB: Yep.

CC: Yeah. I mean, everything, you gotta have like finger shit in there and stuff. So like you [unintelligible]

CL: Trust me, we know what we’re doing. JB: How’s that gonna bypass security? [unintelligible]

JB: Come on, are you really kidding me when you say that?

CL: If you have the machine, you can easily bypass it. Yeah, if the machine is already patched, it’s not gonna be a problem to bypass security that you put on top of the patches.

CC: Well, okay, I didn’t, I didn’t know. JB: Actually, I don’t read on that.

CL: What has to be done if it can’t be relied on the log in patch, though, because you have to assume they’re gonna upgrade log in when they go to security. CC: Right.

JB: Right.

CL: Exactly. That’s why you’re gonna have [unintelligible]

[unintelligible] sticking wood patches in there, either, because [unintelligible] JB: You’re gonna have to have, basically have something on a high numbered port. CL: Yeah, yeah, I mean, that’s not gonna be a problem.

JB: Okay.

CL: Trust me, they’ll have more modifying areas to fucking…

CC: So what, so you already have access, you already have a Bell Atlantic code or something?

CL: Yeah. One on the Internet, and we don’t know if that’s next to anything. We don’t know anything about it.

CC: And that came from Nokes. JB: Is Nokes like, uh, cautious? CL: Is he what?

JB: Cautious?

CL: Yeah, yeah. He’s certainly not any less cautious than you are. JB: Fuck you! I don’t talk to FM.

CC: Well, no…

CL: Yeah, okay. Applehead and FM call you on your parents’ line and you fucking talk to them.

CC: They fucking call me up, what am I supposed to say, uh, Bye? CL: I don’t do that shit anymore. Leave me again.

CC: Well, I didn’t say I’m gonna do anything. JB: I’m in a vise now.

CL: Whatever, it doesn’t fucking matter. We’re all gonna get busted anyway. I mean, I, I can just see if they, if they figure out who all is going, and I’m… [unintelligible]

CL: It would be ugly. JB: Yeah.

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JB: Good company, [unintelligible] CL: Yeah.

CC: Well, I’ll them JB: Yeah, no deals is right.

CL: No deals. I’m serious. I don’t care what your fucking lawyers tell you: “Oooie, you’re gonna have to make a deal, you’re facing serious time.” Fuck that.

Well, “Fat Boy” did talk. Corey Lindsly did not. He had no comment to the court; he did not apologize for anything that he had done. Consequently, he got a sentence of over 41 months, which is one of the longest sentences for a hacker in U.S. history. Cantrell got 24 months. Bosanac got 18 months.

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