EN ESPAÑA
II. COMPARACIONES ENTRE AMBOS AÑOS
2. GOMPARACION DE DIAGNOSTICOS
According to David DeAngelo, the features that attract women are:
1. Means (material items/wealth) 2. Power
3. Fame
4. Looks and height
5. Exclusivity (off limits such as married, hard to acquire such as royalty)
6. Personality
The Slut Offensive (Decibel)
This is the equivalent of a carrot dangled by the woman, or cock teasing. You approach a girl and realize she is absolutely bombarding you with sexual gestures and convo. Do you play along or continue to show active disinterest?
Why it happens
Woman may seek validation or may want you to buy her a drink.
How to recognize it. Some examples:
Sexually provocative talk (she may mention people she's slept with - completely irrelevant to the convo)
"I'm so drunk" (sometimes this is an invitation for you to seduce her - a disingenuous plausible deniability)
Sexual gestures (she may make blow job motions or massage her own ass)
Showing or hiding sexual pics (may act like she has explicit pics on her phone and hides them from you)
How to respond
1. Compliance testing. A girl who really values you enough to sleep with you right now will ping kino and comply with your hoops. She may not comply with even the most basic requests such as to sit or walk somewhere in the bar. She does not ping kino either, in spite of her out-pouring of IOIs. In contrast, women who want to get laid don't just talk the talk, they walk the walk.
2. IOD/neg/shift body language away. Do not IOI in response to her seductive talk.
The results
HB drops the overt sexual behavior, but stays in set and moves into comfort once you qualify her. This girl might seem to suddenly lose steam, but is interested in you because: a) she tells you, b) she does not wander off to talk to another dude, c) she opens up her life story to you.
DHVs (Demonstrations of Higher Value) are highly subjective. That is, if you're a world class yodeler, this hobby will be a DHV to a girl who is aspiring to yodel but possibly a DLV to your typical club party girl.
Understand the level of sophistication of your target and calibrate your DHV accordingly.
A3. The Art of the Compliment
The PUA has gained sufficient IOIs from the target in A2 and can now isolate the target while qualifying her. Two things need to happen during A3: first, the target needs to qualify herself, and second, the PUA needs to validate the target's attraction. There are many ways to qualify the target, but the end result of A3 is this: she believes that the PUA was initially disinterested in her, but clearly now she has demonstrated she meets his high standards and expectations, and he is consequently pursuing her. The point of A3 is to get the target to feel like she has successfully demonstrated to the PUA that she is worth his time and attention, that she meets his high standards in choosing women.
The PUA is allowed to compliment the target. A WILKY is a statement that explains Why I Like You. ‘You’re pretty’ doesn’t suffice. ‘You carry yourself with a lot of poise and I find that attractive’ is better, and if you want can be followed by a release: ‘too bad you’re such a nerd.’
BHRR (Bait-Hook-Reel-Release): An example is the following dialog:
PUA: (bait: a hoop for her to jump through) So do you cook?
HB: (hook: she qualifies herself) Yes, I make the best meatballs.
PUA: (reel: you reward her IOI with IOI) Awesome, I love meatballs.
PUA: (release: you add an IOD calibrator) Too bad I only date tall girls.
Qualifying takes three basic intensities:
1. Subtle, as in having her jump through mild hoops: 'here hold this,' 'do you cook?' 'are you adventurous?'
2. Medium level: Examples: BHRR; 'What are you most passionate about?'; or ‘Who are you? What’s your story?’ said not in an antagonizing way but with a sense of genuine interest. ‘I’m drawn to you…it’s weird.’
3. Slam dunks: 'I never expected to find a girl in a bar with so much depth and intelligence' or ‘I don’t know why, but I’ve become very fascinated by
you,’ ‘why am I so drawn to you…rationalize this for me.’ Use a slam dunk to seal the deal before you get too deep into comfort, just so there is no doubt in her mind that you consider her uniquely qualified far above all the other girls in the room. Or use them to have her start qualifying herself.
The Yes Ladder is a series of questions or commands that quickly tests compliance. For example, if you want to get a girl out of her seat so you can sit down you can use the following Lovedrop ladder:
'Let me ask you something. Are you smart? Let me see your hand. Ok, hold it up like this. Now stand for a second. Ok, now spin around for me.' You then IOI for her compliance, such as praising her spin.
Questions that qualify (be prepared to answer these yourself): What's your motto in life? If your life had to be rated like a movie, what rating would it get? Do you consider yourself adventurous? What one magical power would you most want and how would you use it? When you get into a cold pool, do you wade in slowly or jump right in? What's your worst phobia in life? When you go out shopping do you ever get buyers remorse? How are you with kids? Animals? What were you like as a kid? What kind of guys do you date? Who's shower curtain would you most like to be? How would you rate yourself as a kisser, 1-10?
Hoops are tasks you ask her to perform, or vice versa. You can jump through her hoops, but it should be on your terms. For example, if she asks you to buy her a drink, you tell her to buy the first round. If she wants you to go somewhere with her in the club, you can ask her to first answer one of the above qualifiers. If she asks your age, make her guess. If she wants to have sex, ask her to say 'please' first. By having her jump through your hoops, you are maintaining frame control, and this shows your alphaness.
The hoops you ask her to jump through in comfort are smaller than those in attraction (e.g. holding your drink is a big hoop, kissing you first is a smaller hoop, letting you have sex with her is the smallest hoop). If she is truly interested in something you have to say, then you can respond directly without considering it a hoop.
One tactic that is used is called the double bind, in which you offer the target a choice of two options, which can be opposites but end up win-win for you either way she responds. For example, you can ask her to qualify the kind of sex she likes, which presupposes she wants to have sex with you: 'Are you the kind of girl who likes to party all night until the wee hours, come home exhausted and then have wild, drunk sex before you pass out,
or are you the kind that likes to stay home and snuggle, watch a movie, and then have three hours of marathon sex?'
Decibel's Waffle Qualifier
'Ok, so you're athletic...and you're creative...but the big question is...can you make waffles?'
Once you have attraction, plug two attributes about her you admire into the above statement. This subcommunicates she is meeting your high standards, but you need to know if she can make a decent breakfast tomorrow morning after you pull her tonight.
As you get better at pick-up, you will realize that comfort is where girls will decide to sleep with you, hence the saying 'The game is played in comfort.' As a result, you may try to shorten your attraction phase in order to move quickly into comfort. However, when you demand a woman to qualify herself too soon, she may get offended. Why should any woman qualify themselves to a total stranger in a bar? If your target seems offended, you have not built enough attraction and have gone to A3 too soon. You may be able to correct this by DHVing and qualifying yourself. Compliance testing should start to assess whether you have won her over again, and if so, move more gradually into A3.
C1. Friendly Convo
The PUA has accepted the target as living up to his standards, and she is still interested in him as a potential mate. He isolates her to show he is truly interested in her beyond bar chatter. The two now enter the comfort or rapport-building stage. Conversation ensues that highlights common interests.
Mini-isolation occurs when a PUA positions himself so that he and his target are part of the larger set, though essentially conversing aside from the group. Sometimes out of necessity, mini-isolation must occur, though in general an actual move within the venue to fully isolate is a more potent tactic. It demonstrates the PUA's ability to lead her, and puts her in the mindset to bounce outside the venue. She also drops her ASD, which may still be up and inhibiting her if her friends are in close proximity.
Use techniques that include jealousy plotline, vulnerability and grounding sequences. ‘My brain has been hijacked’ should start here to help with LMR. That is, she should know you are entering this relationship for reasons other than just getting laid, and that you already miss her when she’s away. Starting this approach during S2 is too late to be effective.
It may be hard for nice guys to use jealousy plotline. A man finds a woman who’s interested in him, and his instinct is to preserve the bond that is forming. It seems mean or risky, but the man should establish jealousy and demonstrate preselection to his target. This can be done both by making mention of women in his life, or by running game on other women in proximity to the target. Preselection/jealousy is arguably the most potent of the attraction switches.
C2. The Game is On
The PUA and target have passed basic friendly convo and are now engaged in an interaction (both physical and verbal) that is not sexual but is intimate. There is no confusion that either party has the intent of ‘making a new friend,’ and it is understood that the end result of this encounter will be sex or romance.
Time bridge to a pre-established event for Day 2. Tell stories. Engage your friends to show how respected you are in the tribe. Multiple venue bounces. Push-pull continues.
Key aspects to continue during comfort include vulnerability, being upbeat, showing passion and purpose in life, hitting the attraction switches, identity grounding, and being cool, intriguing and mysterious. The PUA should introduce talk that is laced with sexual remarks or questions.
A bounce from the original venue should ideally occur during comfort.
“Seeding” refers to the implantation of thoughts into a target's mind during the seduction. For example, when a girl mentions Mexican food, you can become enthusiastic about a particular near-by taco stand. Then when it's time to bounce, you can reintroduce the taco stand as a bounce venue, because you have seeded the concept earlier with exciting terms like 'the most amazing chimichangas' or 'décor so tacky you'll think you just stepped into a Tijuana brothel.'
C3. Deep Comfort
Bounce or time-bridge to an intimate location where sex may occur, such as your home. A far more intimate exchange unfolds where sex can realistically occur.
Deep Rapport Builder (IN10SE)
This is a rapport builder as well as an opportunity for anchoring. In addition, it really shows that you GET IT, when it comes to "relationships", when a chick brings it up.
I had to come up with a good response on the fly when a few of the gals I have been out with lately have asked me what I'M looking for in a "relationship". I normally don't like to bring up the "R" word, but when a gal brings it up, you have to have a good reply...one that will show them that you are intelligent, that you have it together, that you are sophisticated, and that there is more to you than meets the eye.
Now the context of using this is that I have only used it with gals in a casual environment, (a bookstore, coffeeshops, restaurant). Haven't tried it in clubs nor do I think it would work in a club setting. This is for when you are alone, having one of those one on one, deep rapport conversations, as a prelude to (a few steps before) the full close. Here was my response...
and every time I've used it so far, it has gotten deep levels of rapport (it became about them seducing ME) as well as broken down any resistance.
As far as anchoring, I used my fingers (pointing to them).
Actually using my fingers as an anchor was kind of a subtle sexual signal, because I would put my 3 right hand fingers up (one finger for each value, as if counting), and point to them with my left index finger and then would form a "ring" with my thumb and index finger of my left hand that would encircle the two fingers of the other hand... and as I talked I subtly slid my encircling hand up and down over my fingers (first each of the 2 together and then the 3 all together at the end).
“I have a new theory about all relationships and what makes up the ideal one.
First of all you need PASSION. This is where you have a physical chemistry with this person, where you feel drawn to this person that you’re with, you may even feel a warm feeling
right here in your stomach and maybe it spreads all over your body when you're with this person… where you can lose track of time and give yourself completely to this experience…
Next you need INTIMACY. This is where you feel an emotional connection with this person, like you’ve known them before, and like you were always meant to know this person… like this was meant to be and where you feel completely comfortable and close… and you may feel it right here in your heart…
Then you need COMMITMENT. Philosophers have called this a sense of “duty”… where you feel secure, knowing that this is someone that is here for you, that we both choose to be together… and this is someone that you can see yourself with now and in the future…
Now, all relationships are based on varying degrees of each one of these elements.
For example if you have just passion, but no intimacy or commitment, then that would be like just physical infatuation.
Like a one night stand or something… nothing more, nothing less…
If you have just intimacy, but no passion or commitment, then that would be just friendship. And we all have those…
If you have just commitment, but no passion or intimacy, then that would be an empty relationship. Like a lot of married people out there… so sad.
Then you can have passion and intimacy, but no commitment.
This is like a “Romantic affair”… and maybe the knowledge that it is something that's now or never… or that you have no guarantees about, makes the passion and intimacy even more intense…
And you can have passion and commitment, but no intimacy.
That is like people who stay together because they really like the sex.
And you can have intimacy and commitment but no passion.
That would be like grandma and grandpa who are together for companionship, but cant remember the last time they did it.
And of course the ideal, as with all things… is about balance, where you can have just the right amount of passion, just the right amount of intimacy, and just the right amount of commitment… well… now that I think about it, an extra little bit more passion would be nice… what do you think?”
S1. Pre-sex
Physical intimacy such as foreplay, but short of sex. The PUA can look for IOCs in determining when it is appropriate to go from C3 to S1.
IOCs: Indicators of Consent (Decibel)
IOIs are a way a PUA can tell when it is time to move into A3.
And when a girl qualifies, he can initiate comfort, technically speaking. But the cues that enable the PUA to move from comfort into S1 have never been defined. For this purpose, Decibel has created the IOC, or Indicator of Consent. While it is obvious the girl is interested, an IOC goes beyond this and gives indication that she may be consenting for him to start the seduction phase. It is not however consent for sex, merely seduction, as there still is the issue of LMR to address. Here are some IOC examples:
1. Any attempt by the girl to initiate seduction. This may include her removing his clothes or her own clothes, or getting sexually intimate.
2. If he calls her in the middle of the night and say he's bored, and she agrees to come over, there is an implication that it might be for more than casual convo.
3. She starts making possessive comments. As an example of a mild degree, if a man continually gets phone calls from other women during a date, she has a right to become irritated. He owes her that time while they're together, and essentially for that date she possesses him. This form of possessiveness is generally acceptable. At the extreme, she may become extremely jealous and overly possessive. All of these degrees of possessiveness are IOCs. In essence, when a girl is only interested in friendship with a man she won't care about him as a possession. But when she is ready to move into seduction, she will start making it clear that he is now hers and other women should stay away (whether in terms of a date, a ONS (one night stand), or a LTR (long term relationship)).
While it is felt that 3 IOIs permit transition to A3, there is no set number of IOCs a PUA looks for. Instead, he needs to calibrate according to the context of the IOC and the quality of it (a girl removing her bra is a stronger IOC than her asking
why there's an earring on the night stand). Further, IOCs are date and time specific, so that if a girl gives off IOCs on one date, on another, she may change her mind and the window may close. The girl may give off IOCs but not be willing to act on her desires right then and there; rather than go AFC and ask her to define her feelings, the PUA should add another IOC to the stack and then tally up the results when S1 may be an option. If the girl has given sufficient IOCs of adequate intensity, seduction may begin when the time and place are
why there's an earring on the night stand). Further, IOCs are date and time specific, so that if a girl gives off IOCs on one date, on another, she may change her mind and the window may close. The girl may give off IOCs but not be willing to act on her desires right then and there; rather than go AFC and ask her to define her feelings, the PUA should add another IOC to the stack and then tally up the results when S1 may be an option. If the girl has given sufficient IOCs of adequate intensity, seduction may begin when the time and place are