Result : Not converted
Wat the heck....:angry: angry: :angry:
ek group 11 log 9 leaders ...result complete fish market???? ....ji haan main baat kar raha hoon bharat ke
avval prabandhan sansathaan ke samooh vaad ki....
Topic - Ethics are not absolute...
Duration 12 mins...and 3 ppl were consistently speaking at a time.
Yeh C main hi hona tha kya...(and for others AWR has done a great job in GD...he is sure to convert it...time to celebrate his return)
One guy was talking a lot aboutt ethics and was hell bent on speaking for all 12 mins(how is it ethical to make fish market out of GD to gain admission?? man) ....later anupam told me that he was a PGite (won't use his id here)....and most of the guys were TIME regulars....these coaching institutes really sucks....
Anyways, interview was better...2 Profs and 1 Lady prof....so (P1) (P2) and (L)...haan main bhi (M) Ok after normal greetings I was sitting in the hot seat
L: (in softest possible voice) Please give me your admit card call letter and certificates.. M: Gave them to her..
P1: From where have you done your education?? M: Told (aab yeh toh aata tha naa)
(L got herself busy with my certificates and forgot abt me)
P1: So what are you doing now? M: Told
P1: Have u learnt anything new at your job or is it same what you learnt at your institute?
M: Told them that since BI is a new technology for me and whatever we are doing at our department is new
for me...then explained my job profile...and everything..
P1: So your work involves using that software only??
M: Told how we gather requirements...to realize how a particular data would come into effect...how the
information would be derived from it...how we analyze data...and then how we generate reports...then how to see trends and from these trends how decisions can be taken and all that...
P1: So don't u think that using past data is not so good idea as you are relying too much what happened in
past...
M: Told them that trends do help us in analyzing current markets...gave 2-3 examples... P2: How reports are used...what type of reports??
M: Explained him with the example...
(score at this point....though doing fine could have given better example...anyways GD ke marks abhie cover
nahin hue...)
L: You have written that you have work ex...but I can't find any certificate... M: Gave her the pay slips...
M: Told them that ethics are relative thing and how they are dependent on different parameters....and
different dimensions...
P1: Every ethic is relative?
M: Sir its very subjective..a particular thing that appears ethical at one point may not appear ethical at
other...take the case of bribery...it is something which is outright unethical...so
P1: is killing a person ethical.
M: (bhagwaan main gaya) Sir killing a person for no reason is definitely unethical...but take the case of
Euthanasia(thank god kya example yaad aaya hai)...it is legalized in Australia...blah blah....so as one person pointed out in GD dat it depends on culture....we consider it as killing someone..but they considered it as freeing someone from his woes....blah bla blah...and then it is also subjected to the dimensions...take the case of business...business ethics nowadays are necessity since market today is competition driven and customer is king...blah blah blah...and now a days we have regulators at place...so business can't afford to be unethical.(was again back to giving my views about the topic)...blah blah
P2: You say that business can't afford to be unethical...I say that they can't afford to be ethical...
M: Sir it is because they are perceived like that....and when such a topic is given in B-school discussion (yeh
kyun bola yaar) it is due to the fact that the perception about business is that they are not ethical but this is
not the case...actually customer today is highly intelligent and highly educated...what they are buying from you??...they are buying satisfaction(marketing funda)....blah blah blah...so if a business try to be unethical then they are losing out in the market..thats why I think businesses can't afford to be unethical...blah blah
L: You have less marks...in engg M: Same old fundas
P2: Yours is a 1st batch rite?? M:Yes sir
L: So what specialization you are interested in??
M: I haven't decided it yet...and i want to expose myself with different fields..before zeroing on to any
specialization but...since i have ICT background and now am working in telecom company in IT domain...guess system focus would be there...
L: so u have given the test y'day ATM?? M: Yes
L: so that is your 1st preference??
M: (yeh kya hai on the spot offer??) Right now I can't commit....but most probably dat wud be my 1st
preference and since we have the chance to take 2 majors in IIMC...guess I wud be going for that only..(she
was relieved to hear that)
P1: Suppose your company has ordered for a new technology...that you know would be used for unethical
purposes...would you be still continue to work in that company...considering that you won't be getting a better job...
M: 1st thing I'll do is to raise my voice against this thing..and will show my discomfiture to the
management...will try to convince them that ethical practices are necessary in the long run...and if they still persist on going with that technology...i would leave the job...because if I can't agree to the practices of the company then I won't be happy working in that company....and will try to get a new job..because even though I can't get a better job..I at least could get a job of same level...
P1,P2,L...thank you...thank you...thank you
Bad GD will haunt me...not sure how they'll mark the chaotic GD...else guess PI was ok....missed out in giving some real good examples to work ex questions...still....that feeling which came after L interview wasn't there after this.
Interview experience of: Yogesh Patwari
Result : Waitlisted
Had my IIMC GD-PI on IIMC campus itself today...
I've not forgotten the betrayal by PGites from Kolkata.. but will post my experience still... see, I'm already contributing to the society in a selfless way (which I always mention as my objective in interviews)..
My Profile:
Final yr B.Com from St.Xavier's College, Kolkata.. Part-I: 73.5% (overall)
XII: 86.2% X: 87%
plus CA PE-II completed in May 05 CAT %ile = 99.45
BLACKI calls + also XLRI (which went down the drain!!)
GD: Good
We were 10 of us (9 guys and 1 girl). Lots of familiar faces. I was a bit apprehensive as I'd got reports of the girl being a fiery speaker. Fortunately, it turned out to be a rumour (she was unusually calm during the GD).Anyway, we had a good discussion on the topic - "The bulk of the population has not benefited
from recent economic reforms".
3 mins to think, 10 for the GD, and then a minute each for summarizing or adding a new point..
I came in a number of times and tried to give a direction to the GD by putting in points like... we must first understand the composition of the population, why benefits are not trickling down to the lower sections of the society, need for proper implementation... bureaucratic reforms, agricultural reforms etc. Overall, I guess I put in a decent performance. I must thank the group for being supportive.. unusual for me to do well in a GD.
Interview:
The panel was pretty chilled out... Though I was the last person to be interviewed, the panel seemed to be in a jovial mood... three profs... all very cool and friendly..
I messed up at a couple of places.. but felt that the panel was somehow satisfied...
Prof: Mr. Patwari, please take a seat.. Me: Thank you, sir.
Prof: So, you are from St. Xavier's? Me: Yes sir...
Prof: Do you watch cricket, Mr. Patwari? Me: No, Sir. I'm not fond of cricket..
At this they said 'good' and started laughing..
Prof: Probably, you got to know from other candidates who were interviewed earlier that the panel is not
fond of cricket...(smiled)
Me: (smiled back).. Sir, I'm really not interested in cricket..
Prof: So, what are you doing together with Graduation? I see that u r doing CA... Me: Yes sir, explained that I'd completed PE-II..
Prof: So, are you doing article ship? Me: No, sir.. explained why not...
Me: gave the 'rata-rataya' answer.
Prof: (citing my ranks in CA) But I feel that the CA profession would lose out if guys like you come for MBA.. Me: Again justified my stand...
Prof: What is your relative position in your college? Me: Sir, I'm among the top ten students of my college.
Prof: (visibly impressed) And, how much do you expect to score in Part-II? Me: Sir, I'd try to get at least 75%.
Prof: Good..
Prof: Did you apply for campus placements in college. I hear they have been good this year.. Me: No, sir.. I'd not applied... but yes they have been good..
Prof: Did you study about Stock market in CA?
Me: No. sir.. we did not have any paper on Stock Market..(heaved a sigh of relief)
Prof: Very vaguely asked me something about Present Value... I explained that.. then he asked me what was
to be taken as 'Discounting Factor'.. By mistake, told cost of capital.. later rectified my mistake by saying sorry and mentioned 'expected rate of return'.
Prof: What are your hobbies? Me: Sir, reading and writing.. Prof: Recent books?
Me: Monk & Ferrari, Alchemist...
And we had a small chat on 'Alchemist'
Prof: I'll revert back to the 'Discounting Factor'.. let's say the company now approaches a bank for a loan..
what wud the bank look at?
Me: Past performance.. actual rate of return as against expected rate of return.. Prof: And..
Me: Risk..
Prof: What about debt-equity ratio?
Me: (shit.. I should have mentioned that first) Yes sir, in fact, this would be more important.. Prof: Yogesh, give me a 30 second lecture on Budget from a CA's point of view..
Me: sir, as in how it would affect the CA profession? Prof: No, just CA's point of view..
I messed up here.. didn't know what is CA's point of view... spoke about Service Tax.. how budget was low on reforms...
Prof: interrupted and said should have spoken about MAT and FBT...
I acknowledged that...
Prof asked me about percentile and calls... Thank you..
I got up when one of the profs said.."Yogesh, I suggest that you continue with CA.." I said - "Sir, I'd prefer to do an MBA.."