MODELO IGME 2008

memorize a million

damn lines."

The thing that the biker ladies liked about us was if there was going to be sex, it was just sex. It wasn’t just – you weren’t going to own them, they weren’t going to own you, you’d just rock and roll.

So the thing is is that like all through high school, [inaudible 39:53] high school girls, there was a couple that wanted to go out with me because I didn’t want to go out with them, you know little cheerleader things…

Grant: But what you seemed to learn back then and that’s carried through in

your life, and the reason I bring it up because of your great quote, which is “Competence breeds confidence,” I mean there’s something very confident about how you approach your sexual life.

You know what you like. You know the kind of woman you would go out with, and you won’t waste your time at all with someone who’s not in your range.

Steve: But see, I’ve also gone out with lingerie models and actresses. But the thing is is that it’s not just because they’re cute or

something. It’s that I connect with them.

I mean one of the last actress girls that I went out with, I went up to her and I was trying to prove to this friend of mine who’s a doctor, I go, “It’s not the lines. You don’t have to memorize a million damn lines.”

I go, “The greatest seducer was Pepe LePeu.” I go, “Watch.” We were walking around this place called the Old Fort in Montreal and this girl was working at a kiosk selling leather bracelets.

I said, “Come here, man. That’s what I do here.” I go walking right up to her and she had beautiful green eyes, beautiful Canadian-French girl.

I go walking up to her, I stick my face right about 3” from her, and I go “You know, most guys probably look right at your breasts and say ‘You know, you have the most beautiful brown eyes I’ve ever seen.’”

And then I turned my head back and looked right in her face and go, “I could never be that rude nor disrespectful. I’d rather look at your beautiful green eyes and say ‘These are the most beautiful breasts I’ve seen in the last five minutes.’” And then I break into Pepe LePeu. I go, “Ah, I can see. She’s trying to resist me. But she’s a romantic one. She wants to play Julio and Romiet.”

And she’s stunned. I just go, “Ma’am, thank you for your time. I’ll talk to you later.” I go walking off and she comes chasing after me, giving me her phone number.

I said, “I don’t do phone numbers. If you want to call me, here’s my card. Call me sometime and we’ll go drink a coffee.”

But the thing is just being out there, just going out talking. I go out and have fun with it.

Grant: Yes, that’s what I wanted to say. There’s a fun and a boldness. You don’t

hold back. It’s a good thing. I don’t know why I tied it to your biker background, but it’s just who you are.

Steve: Maybe it is the biker – I mean everybody keeps telling me, like this psychologist I just did work with goes, “My god, I thought [inaudible 42:20] meant gestalt. You’re the gestalt of hypnosis.”

When I want to get something done, I don’t want to walk and look at the clouds with the guy. I’m there for just one reason. Let’s get results.

Grant: Good, great.

Steve: And that’s pretty much what it is with my relationships, too. It’s like first of all my relationships, whether it’s platonic or intimate, if they aren’t faithful, loyal, true, trustworthy, and honest, they aren’t in my life.

I might still sell them some stuff or do business with them, but the thing is if you’ve always got to question who your inner circle of friends are, can you trust them, can you not? You don’t even have a place called home because you’re so messed up all the time.

Grant: Let’s talk about the results. You’re a no-BS kind of guy and I definitely told

the community that that’s how you live your life and that’s how you approach, really giving pleasure to women.

So let’s talk a little about results. Let’s talk about orgasms, because it is one of your specialties. One of the great things about your White Tiger tantra DVD set, which is ultimately about squirting orgasms, there’s a lot of time you spend before you ever get to the vagina.

What I wanted to go into a little bit, I want you to walk us through about four or five things guys can do to increase women’s pleasure before they even get to the vagina. If that involves obviously energy and some other hip openings. So I’d like to walk through some real specific things guys can do to increase women’s pleasure, not having to do with the vagina.

Steve: Ok, first of all, there’s five DVDs. The two last DVDs are really good because it’s the raw cut. The first three DVDs we spent a lot of time editing.

We break it down into traditional massage, which is like deep tissue shiatsu and Swedish massage all mixed together. Then we have sensual massage, which you aren’t going to learn at a massage school. It’s like when I went through over 1,000 hours of training they’d tell us not to touch these spots because it would make people think about sex.

I go, “Bullshit, I’m going to damn sure touch those spots. Are you out of your mind?”

But anyway, the thing is, if you can get the tension out of her body, the thing is that you can open the gateways. If tension is in a man’s body or a woman’s body, I only date women of course, but the thing is, guys if you’re real tensed up you’re not going to be up to performance either.

The thing is it’s because what they call the sympathetic nervous system, where the fight or flight adrenaline drug comes popping into us, the thing is when you get relaxed – it’s why people like to smoke and all that other stuff, because it gets them into the relaxed mode.

That opens up the parasympathetic. If they open the parasympathetic up, what ends up happening is it releases what they call endorphins or endomorphins. What’s really cool about those is – let’s go back to talking about women.

When you get her out of the adrenaline state and you can relax her and talk with her, let her be happy about these other things. Like with soul-gazing, all of a sudden her endorphins are going to be flying, but also if she’s getting like in the mood and stuff, what happens is the dopamines and the oxytocins start

releasing through her body.

A lot of it comes from conversation, but it’s kind of like fishing for bass. If all you’re looking for is regular sunfish, you throw any worm in there and pull anything out. That’s what you get.

You’ve got to use a little bit more finesse when you’re going for bass.

Grant: Ok, let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about sensual enhancement massage.

Can you give an example of what that is?

Steve: Yeah, with sexual enhancement massage I actually get

underneath the pressure points under the natural cup line of the breasts and around the areola, the nipple part. Not the top of the nipple, but the like silver dollar piece.

If you trace around the outside of that and then you trace underneath with your fingers and you bring – well, bringing the chi up might not be something these guys are used to either, but you bring chi up and you move it underneath her natural cup line and you’ll get erect nipples because you’re releasing oxytocins.

Grant: Let’s talk very physically about what this means. So you’re talking about

bringing energy up from the belly?

Steve: Yeah, every place on earth practices martial arts these days. Go learn some Chi Kung or any of that stuff that’ll teach you how to bring energy up. What you do is you can throw it through your hands through the five points – it’ll go out of your fingertips. It’s real light pulsing, but the more you practice it the more the pulse you get.

Grant: So you’re bringing energy up from the chi, from the stomach area… Steve: From the stomach area, and you’re breathing it out – do you want me to go through the exercise with you?

Grant: I would love it, yes.

Steve: Ok, what you do is – say you’re right-handed. Take your right hand, stick it out, and then what you do is you imagine that there’s a big fire just barreling up in your stomach on the inside and it feels wonderful and pleasant. You can actually close your eyes and just smell the wood burning. Just let it go. Just big flames, just arcing up, and all the sudden hold your hand straight out and you just let that shoot right out through the hand going all the way out like a fire hose busting out through the wall and going around the earth, cycling over and over and over.

When we do this at seminars, we have guys test it and what happens is the arm is relaxed but this energy moving through is just pulsing through. It’s the way the martial artists – you know about martial arts – it’s like Japanese call it Qi. The Chinese call it Chi. The Hawaiians call it mara [? 48:33] or breath of life that they move into.

Grant: But it’s a kind of energy and kind of energetics – it’s real.

Steve: Yeah, well, electricity – you can’t see it but we know that we turn the switch on and it makes the damn lights go on, right? Well, chi and qi and all these other things are like electricity of our bodies.

Grant: So let’s say I’m a guy sitting on this call and listening to this. I have no

experience in martial arts. How do I apply that now? What am I looking to do with understanding the energy of how the body works?

Steve: The thing of it is that almost every place in the world that I’ve traveled there’s places that teach chi kung or tai chi. First of all, if I don’t have any schools that teach tai chi so I’m not making anything.

I’m just saying I went through a whole lot of martial arts study myself. I also went through a lot of massage training and all that.

Some of the guys who took my advice and took weekend or week-long massage courses, like shiatsu or even Swedish massage, just learning that component will greatly enhance – I mean women love when you get the tension out of their back and stuff.

It will release energy through them, even if you aren’t sure about it. If you want to feel more energy, take something like tai chi. They have yin and yang fighting styles with it. That’s real slow motion, but what ends up happening is you start learning how to feel the energy.

Grant: So I would say it’s very hard to really attain great erotic mastery without

understanding even the basics of some of these things, understanding how chi works, how energy moves up and down the body.

You were talking about how to manipulate energy beneath the cup line of the breast.

Steve: Right. It’s all on those videos. We set up the videos up so that the traditional massage [inaudible section 50:32] when we’re bouncing inside the vagina, but if they practice the traditional massage, I mean we put a bunch of money into producing that video and it’s done really well.

It shows people and they can go step-by-step, and it’s easy to get women – if you just take a woman and say, “Look it, I’m learning how to do massage from this teacher out in California. We’ve got his videos.” Just get a massage table, put her on it, it’s easy to get women to volunteer to get a massage.

Grant: That’s true, and if they look at your videos, I have not met a woman who

isn’t interested. By the way, when I start bringing up what’s on the videos, which I want to get to know –

Steve: Well, actually the women will start going, “Let’s see the sensual enhancement massage. We’ve seen that other one.” And if you just go, “Let’s get through the massage part first. I want to get all the points on the feet and all,” they’ll go, “I want to get to the other one.” They’ll start pushing you.

Grant: That’s actually very clever, the other one being squirting orgasm. You’re

saying slow them down, make sure they understand that you don’t get to squirting orgasms without the sensual enhancement massage.

Steve: The reason being is what ends up happening, and a lot of the [inaudible 51:42] over here, we sell everything by tits and ass. Everything in them is marketed by sex, right? The Puritan view about it is if a woman starts to engage in it, she’s like going to be perceived as a slut or something. So it gives her guilt and all this stuff.

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